Re: [Cz-L] Are we Rumanians ?

In answer to Hardy and Paul Heger:

We are Not Romanians, even though our birth certificates say that we
are.
Therefore we cannot be either good or bad Romanians.
But if we were Romanians, we would be the best.
Ask any true Romanian in either the North Bukovina or the South Bucovina
and they will tell you the same. They will tell you that we are more
industrious,
better educated and cleaner. (that is what a peasant woman told my son,
when he stayed in a village in the south Bucovina.)
Furthermore; Stefan cel Mare (Stephen the great) had his capital in
Radauti.
He certainly is considered a great Romanian, therefore by extension,
so are we.

I like Paul's joke. But as to being the chosen people: Nowhere in the
Bible
does it say, what we were chosen for. It seems to me, that we were
chosen
to be "Na va-nad". (moving and wandering).
That is why, when someone asks me where I am from, I say: I was born
in a city which now is part of the Ukraine, when I was borne, it was
part
of Romania and until the end of WW1 it was part of Austria-Hungary.
That is why my first language was German. But I grew up in Israel and
now
live in the US.

In my own mind, I am a Jewish Czernowitzer of the older generation, or
to the initiated, "Ein Echter Czernowitzer" (a true Czernowitzer).

Mimi
On Jan 4, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Paul Heger wrote:

> Hi
> This question of identity is too complex, especially for Jews, to
> deliberate and offer an answer in a few words. You do not qualify
> which is
> the alternative you considered as worse. Let me tell you a Jewish
> metaphor,
> which has some linkage to your question: A Jew pleads with God:
> Master of
> the World! We have been your chosen people for 3000 years. Enough!
> Look now
> for another people to be your choice
> Shabbat Shalom
> Paul/Pessach Heger
>
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 7:48 AM, HARDY BREIER <HARDY3_at_bezeqint.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Lately there was an off the record exchange on the subject if
>> we are Rumanians or not.
>> One of the arguments was that considering the alternatives being
>> considered Rumanians was the best available choice.
>> So let it be.
>> But let it be known : We are not very good Rumanians.
>> Hardy
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