Re: [Cz-L] Resilience

As I don't know whom to address personally I'll just add a thanks to Serah
who is a wonderfully active contributor here which is a great pleasure,
thanks.
Your curiosity sparks a lot of interest and digging into our past. To
think that dry historians will be interested? I doubt that. What we do
here is bear witness to OUR lives within a period of history. I feel our
exchange human, warm, familiar - sharing -. We don't write history and who
cares what will be done with " Boba Manses?!!" I write and wrote about MY
experiences, MY lost youth and those who were interested read it. It is the
period none of us can forget and, as I so often mentioned, For me
personally, through exchanging these experiences I opened a door deeply
locked for 70 odd years.I certainly never thought historian, history =
stories yes.Our past are personal experiences which changed our lives from
children to adults, our life stories and "resilience".
As for our parents' feelings for the Austrian past. I always thought that
most of it was their gratitude of "equal rights" which they never had
before, that made them so devoted. My mother stood up, to the day she
died, when the Austrian hymn was sung and her prayer books all started with
a special prayer for the Kaiser. This feeling of belonging never stopped
for her, there she really belonged, certainly NOT Romania, a language she
never spoke. Can a "Historian" understand that?? But some of you can, and
that's why I enjoy writing to one and all. Regards, anny

On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu> wrote:

> The debate over who suffered more; Romanian Jews or Polish,
> Ukrainian and Hungarian Jews, is an old debate and a very ugly one.
> Each individual person who suffered because of the Holocaust,
> even though aware of the calamity which had befallen all European Jews,
> experienced his or her suffering individually;
> A Hungarian Jewish mother whose children were gassed in Auschwitz
> and a Bukovina Jewish mother whose children died of hunger or frostbite,
> both suffered terribly. Nothing to debate or discuss.
>
> It is a fact, that in some countries a greater or lesser percentage
> of the Jewish population survived. The Germans, in their own country
> and in all the territories they conquered, had exact plans as to what to do
> with their Jewish population, almost from the start.
> German Austrian and Check Jews were sent to death camps or work camps,
> which eventually, also became death camps. In the countries and territories
> they conquered, they initially practiced "death by bullets" - Mass shooting
> of the Jewish population. When they realized that death by bullets was
> inefficient,
> they shipped the Jewish population to the death-camps. Old people, children
> and their mothers were killed immediately, young healthy men and women
> were used as slave labor and often managed to survive.
>
> The Romanians had no detailed plans as to what to do with the Jews
> they deported to the newly conquered part of Ukraine, called Transnistria,
> which extended east of Romania, into Ukraine up to the river Bug.
> They just wanted to get rid of them. That is why, they established few
> organized camps and no organized mass killings in Transnistria.
> That is why most Bucovina Jews, who were deported and died in Transnistria,
> died on the forced marches to Transnistria, or perished there from hunger,
> cold and disease.
> The territory east of the Bug had been conquered by German forces
> and was under their rule.
> Some of the Romanian soldiers were squeamish about killing Jews,
> that is why they handed the old, or infirm or rebellious Jews over
> to the Germans on the other side of the Bug, where they were executed,
> either by shooting or by hanging.
>
> Three of my relatives were murdered on the eastern side of the Bug;
> a great aunt Hana Wisnitzer and her daughter Rifka, by shooting.
> And a cousin of my mother, Itzik Fruchter was hanged.
> A German officer also wanted to murder his three children
> and came looking for them in the camp, but the oldest daughter,
> then about 14 years old managed to hide herself and her siblings
> inside rucksacks and thus escaped death.
> To the best of my knowledge, they are all still alive and have children,
> grandchildren and probably great-grandchildren.
>
> Mimi
>
>
>
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