Re: [Cz-L] Childhood in Czernowitz

From: Jacob Greenberg <grs_software_at_bigpond.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 22:06:40 +1100
To: "Anna Kofner" <akofner_at_hotmail.com>
Reply-To: "Jacob Greenberg" <grs_software_at_bigpond.com>

Dear Anna,

I totally agree with you account of the state of education during the Soviet
era.

You forgot to mention the high level of musical education in Czernovtsy. The
Chernovtsy State Music College produced fine musicians who went to continue
their education at the conservatoires of all major cities in the USSR and
many Czernowitzers are teaching and performing all over the world.

Serah

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From: "Anna Kofner" <akofner_at_hotmail.com>
To: <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>; "yosi-jerry" <eshet1_at_netvision.net.il>
Cc: "Cornel Fleming" <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>; "IrisJune11_at_aol.com"
<irisjune11_at_aol.com>; <czernowitz-l_at_list.cornell.edu>
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 3:45 AM
Subject: RE: [Cz-L] Childhood in Czernowitz

After WWII the situation got worth. For a long time Jewish students were not
admitted in the University or in the College of Medicine where the first 13
students were admitted in 1964. There were no Jews on the Med school staff.
A friend of my parents, a graduate of Sorbonne, who founded the Biochemistry
Lab, was asked to step down in 1952 (The case of Jewish Doctors) and offered
a position of a lab technician.
Staring in the mid 60s about 5% of students admitted to science and math
department were Jewish, the rest did not admit Jews. Only those departments
had a few Jewish professors, because they really needed them. One of them
was Fishman, a brilliant mathematician. But that was the situation all over
Ukraine. That why most of the Jewish kids went to far away places.
The schools, on the other hand, specifically in the center of the city, were
excellent. The combination of great teachers/curriculum with parental
involvement and high expectations from both components produced great
results, just like before WWII.
And that's why we could compete with the best out there.
As for the University? For half a century it admitted students based on
their ethniccity, class and party affiliation and not on their merit. Same
goes for the faculty. How good can it be?
Channa

> From: mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Childhood in Czernowitz
> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 10:15:12 -0500
> To: eshet1_at_netvision.net.il
>
> I also do not know exactly what standard the university is today,
> but before WW2 it was considered a very good university.
> According to one of my friends, a Romanian professor of Mathematics,
> the department of Mathematics had some outstanding professors.
> The students who went to study abroad, did so because
> under Romanian rule, only a very limited number of Jewish students
> were admitted to the Czernowitz university. I am also not sure
> whether they had a department of Medicine or law.
>
> Mimi
> On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:03 AM, yosi-jerry wrote:
>
> > I don't know what class the University is today, but I know that in
> > the days before WW2 if somebody wanted to achieve something with a
> > serious academic background, she/he traveled to central Europe.
> > Yosef Eshet
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