RE: [Cz-L] request Information - Chernovich ghetto

From: Irene Fishler <irenef_at_netvision.net.il>
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:14:26 +0200
To: Fichblue_at_aol.com, romers_at_shaw.ca, czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu
Reply-to: Irene Fishler <irenef_at_netvision.net.il>

 
Dear All,

Eythan's comments are correct. I believe Jean Ancel is The expert and
authority in Rumanian Holocaust studies.
 This is what I found in Jean Ancel's "History of the Holocaust, ROMANIA"
volume I.
Yad Vashem. Jerusalem 2002 (in Hebrew)
On page 666:
The governor issued the order #38 to concentrate the Jews in the ghetto
starting the action that same day, the 11th October at 5h in the morning.
On page 683:
On November, 15, the transports to Transnistria were stopped suddenly. The
remaining Jews were to go, again, trough a permits- commission (" comisia de
verificare" ) headed by General Ionescu. After that the ghetto was closed
down. No date is mentioned. It happened probably at the end of November.
Best regards
Irene Fishler, Haifa


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Subject: Re: [Cz-L] request Information - Chernovich ghetto

My mother, Pearl Fichman, dated the start of the Czernowitz ghetto as
October 11, in her memoirs Before Memories Fade (p. 77), "On Simchat Torah,
October 11, 1941, on a cold, windy Saturday morning, there appeared
notices") as does The Holocaust in Romania by Radu Ioanid (pp. 130, 141).
General Calotescu issued the local order on October 10 (Ioanid, p. 156).
According, again, to my mother's memoirs, Calotescu was following orders
 from Berlin, orders she saw displayed at the Jewish Museum in Amsterdam (p.
77).

I believe my mother's writing indicates the ghetto was dismantled upon the
issue of the 'Popovici papers', but she does not give a date. "The Mayor,
Dori Popovici, a decent man, who had lived all his life in Czernowitz and
was friendly toward the Jewish population, got the consent from Bucharest to
dismantle the Ghetto and everybody to receive a permit signed by him" (p.
81). I think the Popovici papers were issued near the end of November, 1941,
(based on looking at Mimi Taylor's November 27, 1941 family documents posted
at http://czernowitz.ehpes.com/ (accessed 01.14.2007) and considering my
mother's account.

I know there are better informed historians than me on this list, so
hopefully they will answer more fully and correct any of my mistakes.

Eytan Fichman
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