RE: [Cz-L] Are we Rumanians ?

Emil,
Regarding the Ukrainian birth certificate.
Sorry, it will not work, as the archives are in Czernowitz and not in Bucharest. I had the same problem, I was made to go thru the US State Department and the US Embassy in Bucharest and was told by the Romanian authorities that Cernăuţi is now in the Ukraine and to apply there for my birth certificate.

Arthur

--- On Sat, 1/5/13, Emil Hitzig <emilhg_at_013.net> wrote:

> From: Emil Hitzig <emilhg_at_013.net>
> Subject: RE: [Cz-L] Are we Rumanians ?
> To: "'fred love'" <fredhotman_at_yahoo.com>, "'Miriam Taylor'" <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>, "'Paul Heger'" <pheger_at_gmail.com>
> Cc: "'HARDY BREIER'" <HARDY3_at_bezeqint.net>, "'CZERNOWITZ-L'" <Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu>
> Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 11:36 AM
> ........When I applied for a current
> birth certificate from the Czernowitzer
> Authority
> it stated I was born in the Ukraine of Jewish
> nationality........
>
> Wrong, You should apply for a current birth certificate from
> the Romanian
> Authority in Bucharest.
> Emil Hitzig
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-72558391-3499435_at_list.cornell.edu
> [mailto:bounce-72558391-3499435_at_list.cornell.edu]
> On Behalf Of fred love
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 3:41 AM
> To: Miriam Taylor; Paul Heger
> Cc: HARDY BREIER; CZERNOWITZ-L
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Are we Rumanians ?
>
> I have never considered myself Roumanian, although I was
> born there least
> one forgets our citizenship was taken from us but never
> restored. My
> passport states place of birth as Czernowitz/ Bukovina.
> When applying for my passport, I stated I am stateless. When
> I applied for a
> current birth certificate from the Czernowitzer Authority
>  it stated I was born in the Ukraine of Jewish
> nationality.
> I rejected this novel atribute. I must agree with Mimi I am
> a Jewish
> Czernowitzer and proud of it.
>
> Fred Weisinger
> -----
>
>
>  Original Message -----
> From: Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
> To: Paul Heger <pheger_at_gmail.com>
> Cc: HARDY BREIER <HARDY3_at_bezeqint.net>;
> CZERNOWITZ-L
> <Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, 5 January 2013 3:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Are we Rumanians ?
>
> In answer to Hardy and Paul Heger:
>
> We are Not Romanians, even though our birth certificates say
> that we are.
> Therefore we cannot be either good or bad Romanians.
> But if we were Romanians, we would be the best.
> Ask any true Romanian in either the North Bukovina or the
> South Bucovina and
> they will tell you the same. They will tell you that we are
> more
> industrious, better educated and cleaner. (that is what a
> peasant woman told
> my son, when he stayed in a village in the south Bucovina.)
> Furthermore;
> Stefan cel Mare (Stephen the great) had his capital in
> Radauti.
> He certainly is considered a great Romanian, therefore by
> extension, so are
> we.
>
> I like Paul's joke. But as to being the chosen people:
> Nowhere in the Bible
> does it say, what we were chosen for. It seems to me, that
> we were chosen to
> be "Na va-nad". (moving and wandering).
> That is why, when someone asks me where I am from, I say: I
> was born in a
> city which now is part of the Ukraine, when I was borne, it
> was part of
> Romania and until the end of WW1 it was part of
> Austria-Hungary.
> That is why my first language was German. But I grew up in
> Israel and now
> live in the US.
>
> In my own mind, I am a Jewish Czernowitzer of the older
> generation, or to
> the initiated, "Ein Echter Czernowitzer" (a true
> Czernowitzer).
>
> Mimi
 

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