Re: [Cz-L] Resilience

To Cornel,

And who were the guards in Babi Yar?
Did you read the book "Schindlers List", specifically the chapters
describing the role of Ukrainians in the extermination of ghetto Krakow?

About blaming the whole nation: Germany took responsibility for their crimes
and is still paying restitution. But Ukrainians and Lithuanians skilfully
deny their involvement.

The hatred did not happened in a distant past. Both myself and Greg, people
who lived in Cz in the 70s and 80s reported instances of open hatred.

To Mimi,

There is an unwritten law: No Jews-No anti-Semitism!

This reminds me of what's happening in today's Poland: first they got rid
of 3 million Jews and now they have a Yiddish theatre, klezmer music and
Jewish food in their restaurants. Is there anyone who is able to explain
this bizarre phenomena?

Serah

----- Original Message -----
From: "cornel fleming" <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>
To: "'Jacob Greenberg'" <grs_software_at_bigpond.com>; <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
Cc: <Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:53 PM
Subject: RE: [Cz-L] Resilience

> Serah...I suggest you enter Babi Yar into Google and read the Wikipedia
> description of exactly which German units were involved....and how many
> non-JEWS were murdered in this ravine. The troops involved were ethnic
> Germans...including apart from the SS a police battalion from Hamburg etc!
> Nobody denies that there were antisemitic and Jew-hating Ukrainians...but
> I
> repeat again,condemning a whole nation today for the acts of some carried
> out in the past is wrong. Cornel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-72624893-8441035_at_list.cornell.edu
> [mailto:bounce-72624893-8441035_at_list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jacob
> Greenberg
> Sent: 28 January 2013 03:39
> To: mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu
> Cc: Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Resilience
>
> Of course they value the Jewish contribution now, when they see that Cz
> has
> become a dead and a struggling place without the Jews.
>
> It is obvious that most of the list members never lived in Cz as adults
> and
> had never truly interacted with the friendly Ukrainian population. As
> Hardy
> suggested, ask them to return your property in the informal manner and I
> won't give one grivna for your life.
>
> They are also holding the pensions of my parents who worked there for 22
> years of their lives.
>
> Do you know that during WWII Western Ukrainians did the most murderous
> jobs
> that even German soldiers refused to do, both in Poland and in Ukraine, in
> places such as Babi Yar?
>
> Serah
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