Re: [Cz-L] conscription

Dear Mia,

Regarding your question (if I understand it correctly) regarding whether Jews
were commonly emigrating to avoid conscription at that time, I offer this: I
guesstimate that my mother's (Pearl Fichman's) oldest brother, Elias Spiegel,
might have been several years younger than your grandfather and I understand
from the Shoah tape she made that he left Czernowitz for South America at least
in part to avoid conscription. In that tape my mother characterized military
service as being a very hard requirement. In her relating of this, I am not
remembering if the severity of the hardship had, in her mind, to do with one's
being Jewish.

Eytan Fichman

In a message dated 1/15/2007 4:27:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mia_mouse_at_hotmail.com writes:

>From: Bruce Reisch <bir1_at_nysaes.cornell.edu>
>Reply-To: Bruce Reisch <bir1_at_nysaes.cornell.edu>
>To: Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu
>Subject: [Cz-L] The role of the moderator
>Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 10:39:35 -0500
>
>Dear friends on the Czernowitz/Sadagora Discussion Group:
>
>
>As list owner, it's my goal to facilitate discussion that is on topic to
>the group's stated goal, to discuss all topics related to the history and
>genealogy of the Jewish communities of Sadagora and Czernowitz. >>

Dear Bruce, and list,
I was interested in the above letter because I was starting to think that
this forum would not be able to help me, but you state that one of the
purposes is to discuss topics related to genealogy, so here goes...
I am researching my grandfather, Harry Noren. Although I knew him as a
child, I really never knew much about him. My own father died when I was 12,
and it turns out that the only uncle I have left doesn't really know
anything. HOWEVER, this last Thanksgiving, he let me borrow and copy my
grandfather's passport. It's a Romanian passport, dated April 13, 1921. It
states that my grandfather, Grisa Nurinsky, was born in Cernauti and was
living in Bucaresti. (Czernowitz and Bucharest) There are permissions from
different countries allowing him to travel through, all the way to his
landing card for Quebec.
My uncle also gave me a piece of paper that has my grandfather's parents and
siblings names on it. It says his parents are Dena Nemerovsky and Isidore
Norensky, from Zlatopol, Russia.
Now for the kicker- my uncle says that the information on the passport isn't
true. He says that my grandfather left to avoid conscription- was this
common for Jews of the period? and that the information is not correct. Is
there a Zlatopol near Czernowitz? The only one I have found is in
Khazakstan. I have found out a little information, but am confused.
Grateful for any help or pointers...
Mia Noren
Received on 2007-01-15 20:06:03