RE: [Cz-L] Resilience

Serah...

Anti-Semitism is definitely not a Ukrainian phenomenon and - although I understand and partially share your bitterness - I strongly believe, that statements such as "The problem is that Ukrainians are anti-Semites and murderers given an opportunity." are not appropriate.

• I was born in Bucharest/Romania (in 1957), among the descendants of Antonescu, Goga, Cuza & Co,
• I emigrated (in 1969) to Germany, Hitler's, Göring's, Eichmann's former Third Reich,
• I went back to Romania (in the mid-1990s), where Vadim Tudor's Greater Romania Party played a certain role,
• I moved to The Netherlands (at the end-1990s), where Dutch collaborators betrayed Anne Frank,
• I lived neighboring to Belgium, from where, assisted by Belgian collaborators, my uncle has been deported to Auschwitz,
• I don't mind at all living in Germany and the Netherlands and visiting Ukraine, Romania, Belgium, etc,
• I could easily carry forward the listing of countries, where you'll face anti-Semitism.

No, Serah, the attribution of kin liabilty and collective guilt by - ethnic - generalization will not encourage the younger generation, even not for the Ukrainian, to elaborate its historical awareness.

Concerning Dr. Flohr, dear Serah, "Der Tag" is reporting at least four times on him. Please go the the archives for "Der Tag" at

http://dertag.forenworld.com/index.php

and, entering "Flohr" into the search engine, you'll discover the following mentions:

19.05.1933: Obituary for Fischel Flohr from Dorna Watra, Dr. Emanuel Flohr's father.
02.06.1933: Dr. Flohr and Dr. Rat are assisting Lorenz Nagler, who committed a suicide attempt.
10.06.1934: Dr. Emanuel Flohr's reputation (and wealth) are based on his unique appendix operations.
09.08.1934: Due to inactivitiy, the referees, Sandmann, Galsberg, Dr. Flohr and Slufarciuc were dismissed.

I do hope these data will be useful to you. Warmest wishes from cold, but lovely Netherlands/Germany!

Edgar Hauster
Lent - The Netherlands

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> From: grs_software_at_bigpond.com
> To: mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu
> CC: Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Resilience
> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:40:32 +1100
>
> Dear Mimi,
>
> I apologise again for using the word "resilience" instead of "adaptation to
> life under the Soviet regime". You had to be there to witness and to observe
> that phenomena. It is very hard to explain....so let's drop the subject.
> Funny, but "resilience" is the topic of my dissertation and my current
> research.
>
> Secondly, only a small percentage of full-blooded Jews remain in the
> territory of the former Soviet Union as about 2 million Soviet Jews left
> over the period of 1960-1990. So it was a very slim chance for our children
> and grandchildren to live there.
>
> I know that the list wants to discuss CZ before WWII and I have benefited a
> lot from learning about the past. But the Jewish life in Cz didn't stop
> during the period of 1945-1990. The way I see it, the Jewish presence on
> it's death bed now (1500-2000 Jews in Ch altogether), even if the
> Lubavichers Chassidim lighting the menora.
>
> Mimi, you did very well leaving in time. But not every one was able or
> wanted to leave. I wish my parents had left after the war but I would've
> never been born in 1954.
>
> As I already stated, not everybody was in a position to leave. My fathers'
> Bukoviner side of the family (the survivors) were allowed to return from
> Siberia only in 1948.
>
> The Bessarabian-born side of the family were too happy to have a big and
> supportive family that finally gathered in Chernovtsi and they decided to
> stay. Only one sister who was married to a wealthy Cz man (who perished in
> Russia) bravely left with a small child and have endured terrible hardship
> in Israel in the 50s and 60s, finely saved from her misery by the German
> restitution payments.
>
> I have never suffered in Chernovtsy either financially or socially and I
> was living in a beautiful place and I had a big family around me. The old
> Czernowitz was forever gone and I didn't know any better. People who stayed
> received good university education and a decent standard of life. My mother
> and most of her family studied medicine, my father became an accountant. In
> public you had to comply with the ideology but you could do what you wanted
> in the privacy of your homes. The problem is that Ukrainians are
> anti-Semites and murderers given an opportunity.
> That's why going back or even investing is out of question. It could've
> never happened while they were part of a strong USSR empire but now, when
> people are poor, anything can happen there.
>
> Some personal details: The Bessarabia-born family I was telling about was
> kept together and supported by Frima Flohr (my mother's aunt) who was
> married to a prominent Cz surgeon Dr Flohr (may their souls rest in peace).
>
> And a couple of questions:
> .
> Did anyone meet with or heard about the Dr Flohr's family?
>
> Do you think the List would be interested in materials that involve
> Chernowitzers who stayed into the Soviet times?
>
> Who, do you think, is a real Czernowitzer or a real Bukoviner? (this was a
> frequent theme of discussion in my family)
>
> Serah Greenberg (Kraft)
> Sydney, Australia
>
>
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