Category Archives: Identification

From “Brotman” to “Brutmann” and from the 20th Century back to the 18th!

Under the headline “Discovering my 99% family” the Jewish Independent, Friday 04th, December 2015 edition, is publishing an outstanding article by Shula Klinger, author, illustrator and journalist living in North Vancouver. Shula is describing her success story researching her family history by becoming connected with Cyril Leonoff. Both Shula and Cyril are related to Betty Brotman, or more precisely Betti Brutmann, as per Shula’s grandmother’s birth certificate from Czernowitz in 1902. Shula writes: “… my older son asked me again. ‘Is he a relation? Is he ours?’ I told him, ‘Very possibly.’ And, again, he wanted to know the percentage probability. ‘Ninety-nine percent, then,’ Benjamin decided.” Since “Brotman” was initially “Brutmann”, as has been proven by the metrical records, why not going back to Bukovina as early as at the end of the 19th century, looking for the first Brutmanns, who setteled there? The register for “Jewish Taxpayers in Bukovina the the End of 18th Century” provides evidence:

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Around 1798 there were just two Jewish families in Onut [Pereunegru/Paraul-Negru], 25 mi north of Czernowitz, namely the Liedermads and the Brutmanns. The farmer Juda Brutmann and his wife Demuth [“Devotion”, sic!], née Salomon, had two daughters, Esther and Susanna. While Esther, born April 25th, 1795, deceased at the age of 2½, Susanna, born October 1oth, 1798, survived.

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If, by any chance, Benjamin is going to ask me “Are we 100% for sure, for sure somehow related to the Brutmanns from Onut, Edgar? Or just 99%, do you think?” I’d say in reply: Benjamin, I don’t know exactly (yet), but for sure not very much less than 99%.” Shula, Benjamin’s mother, keeps following her family roots and with respect to our group she writes: “I have also found a home at Czernowitz-L, an email group hosted by Cornell University for people whose families come from what is now the Ukrainian city of Chernivtsi. Once known as ‘Jerusalem on the Prut,’ Czernowitz – as it is still called by those who recall its Habsburg past – was once home to 50,000 Jews. Less than a third of this number survived the war. Like many third-generation Czernowitzers, I write messages to Czernowitz-L in the hope that someone, somewhere, will remember hearing my family name and be able to point me in the direction of a lost relative. Very often, we hear nothing, but once in a blue moon, we strike gold.”

Mogilev Podolsky Documents & Photos

From Sylvie Gsell…

I saw these documents from Ethel Stern, good friend of my mother’s cousin.

Ethel was deported at the age of 7 years in Mogilev Podolsky as much of my mother’s family.

She had prepared documents for me:
– The pass of her future husband to go to work at the plant Turnatoria Jagendorf
– A picture of a theater show organized deportees orphans
– A photograph of the deportees Mogilev Podolski

When MP was liberated, my family ( my grand father Riwen Reicher, my aunt Luca Reicher, my great uncle dr Fabian Stern, his wife Lana and his daughter Gaby , Ethel and her parents) were living in Cz one year before coming home in Radautz.

This is all I know. Perhaps List members can say more.
Sylvie
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Physicians [from Czernowitz], Deported to Transnistria

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Ervin [Erwin] Adler, Ioan Blidner, Leopold Bremer [Brenner], Lazar [Lezer] Buxbaum, Maier Drucher, Isidor Furmann, Natan [Nathan] Ghetzler [Getzler], Iosif Goldstein, Solomon Heier, Suchar Herschman, Martin I. Herzberg [Hertzberg], Iuda Hollinger [Holinger], Guido Hornstein, Iosif Iahr, Julius Kessler, Berl Korn, Karol [Carl] Korn, Max Kremer, Carol [Karl] Leindenbaum [Lindenbaum], Isac Likvornic, Comrat [Iacob Conrad] Mardler [Merdler], Pincas Napler, David Nier, Ossi [Ossy] Orest Noe, Iacob Rauch, Arthur Rosemblat [Rosenblatt], Iulius Rotlender, Izu Salzberger, Ludovic [Ludwig] Samler, Leizer [Leiser] Schachter [Schächter], Paul Pincas Schapira, Zigard Scherf, Adolf Schifter, Simion [Simon] Schlosser, Wilhelm Schvartz, Carol Schwartz Skapf [Schwartzkopf], Alfred Seidner, Wilhem [Wilhelm] Solomon, Natan Teitler, Isac Vikman, Herman Walter, Hema [Herman] Wasz Kutzer [Waszkautzer], Baruch Wenistock [Weinstock], Adolf Winter, Bernhard Teodor Zulflucht [Zuflucht].

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Captured by Dr. Sergij Osatschuk at Czernowitz Street Market in January 2010

The Lilien/Lilian Family

I am from Johannesburg, South Africa. I am investigating the Lilien/Lilian family who lived in Czernowitz. I have managed to find out the following:

My great grandfathers name was Wilhelm lilian ( must have become William when he arrived in Australia before WW2) – he had 2 brothers – Joseph and Ossies (all born in Czernowitz), their fathers name was Meier. Wilhelm was born in Czernowitz. I have found a picture of Meier Lilian tombstone in Czernowitz cemetary – but it is an unclear photo.

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Meier died on 12 July 1926 and is buried in Czernowitz. Wilhelm was born on 17 January 1891 or 1892 and died in Sydney, Australia 13 November 1964.

Does anyone have any further information about the lilian family? or know who would have info? I am also investigating if the lilian family in Czernowitz is related to the famous artist Ephraim Moshe lilien.

Please let me know
Thanks in advance
Danny

1920 Czernowitz Class Photo

From David Rosner:

Dear Aunt and Uncle (Edy und Gaby Weissmann), dear fellow members of the
list,

As promised I come to you with a recently found photograph, which was deeply
dug into in my beloved father Charles ROSNER’s things – and to be more
precise in one of the more or less preserved cardboard suitcases that
belonged to my grandparents, and which remained all over the years.

As you can see it is about Edy Wagner’s class, I wonder if I read right :
“Zur Erinnerung von meiner III. Volksschulklasse im Juli 1920″…
But I may be wrong.

I hope you all like this as much as I did when I found it !… Unless you
maybe had it already.

Greetings from Normandy.

David.

David ROSNER,
Directeur Pièces, Service Après-Vente et Informatique, Groupe SAUSSEREAU.
Téléphone : +33.(0)6.74.32.20.15.
www.saussereau.com

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